General Discussion / Sharing Media Files: ie: Playing DVD's through the Web Conference
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7/30/2010 11:34:45 AM Reply with Quote

Hi there,
We have purchased several "canned" training courses which include watching a DVD. How can I have te participants view the DVD. I noticed you share the media files.

I tried sharing my desk top and playing the DVD through the Windows media player and also sharing the application and selecting the windows media player. Both times the DVD video played fine on my computer, but on the participant's laptop it only came across as a black screen.

Thanks!
Laurelle

8/5/2010 2:17:46 AM / Edited 8/5/2010 2:18:06 AM by Matt Reply with Quote

Hi Laurelle

The Media Sharing feature will allow you to share a sound or video file (such as .wav, .mp3, .wmv, .avi, .mpg) directly through Nefsis to all other participants in your meeting.

Since your training course seems to be a DVD format, I doubt you will be able to share it this way.

However... you can share it by playing it in Windows Media Player (for example) and sharing that application or your entire Desktop with other people in the meeting. Although, this tends to be a less efficient way of sharing media.

You can adjust some settings in Windows Media Player so that participants should see the DVD being played back (instead of a black screen) when shared via Desktop or Application share.

This "black screen" can often be due to hardware acceleration (or the use of overlays) in Windows Media Player.

On Windows XP:
1. Open Windows Media Player
2. Select "Tools" -> "Options"
If you don't have the menus across the top of it, right-click at the top of the Media Player - it should give you a menu where you can select "Tools" -> "Options"
3. Select "Performance" tab
4. Click "Advanced"
5. Untick "Use overlays"
6. Click OK
7. Close any remaining windows


AUDIO NOTE:
If you're using Windows XP and sharing your Desktop or Windows Media Player application, participants will not be able to hear the DVD audio - as this is a limitation to what Windows XP can achieve with live sharing.

If you're lucky enough to be on a Windows Vista or Windows 7 computer, you should notice an "Options" button towards the left-side of your Desktop share (it's on a vertical toolbar to the left of the screen). Clicking on "Options" will give you a menu where you can select "Share audio".

This should allow other meeting participants to see (and hear!) the DVD.

Hope this helps shed some light :-)

8/11/2010 7:58:31 AM Reply with Quote

Thanks! I'll give it a try. Should both computers using Nefsis have the "Use Overlays" unticked or just the presenting computer?

I'll be back on and let you know how it goes. Thank you so much for replying! I do appreciate it!

8/12/2010 1:11:16 AM Reply with Quote

Hey, no problem...

If you untick "Use overlays" on the computer that is sharing / presenting the DVD in Windows Media Player, everyone else should see it.

All other participants who view it in the meeting shouldn't need to do anything.

The only downside is that getting audio from the DVD/Windows Media Player is extremely difficult if you're using it on Windows XP (detailed in my last post), but if you can get your hands on a Windows Vista or Windows 7 PC - you'll have the cool option to "Share audio" too.

8/13/2010 8:22:46 AM Reply with Quote

It worked okay, but like you said, it's not efficient and comes across to the participants really choppy and not professional enough to share this way. I didn't have a problem with the audio except when the DVD was on slow mode..then it looked like the old Max Headron video. It's probably the bandwidth too.

Do you know of any good programs to convert the DVD to the formats Nefsis will use when I click on "share media files"?

8/17/2010 4:49:39 AM / Edited 8/18/2010 6:57:29 AM by Matt Reply with Quote

Thanks for replying... must say that's one of the best descriptions I've heard for a slow-motion DVD! :-)

If you share an application (like Windows Media Player) or your desktop (i.e. something 'live'), Nefsis will share it at a low refresh rate. Typically this is OK for office applications etc, but not for video.

However, perhaps one way to help improve it is to increase the Frames Per Second (refresh rate) - so the DVD comes across smoother. Some steps to try are below.

1. Go into a Nefsis conference
2. Click on the "n" application button (top left corner)
3. Click Settings
4. Click Sharing
5. Drag the Sharing Frames Per Second slider towards the right - increasing the number of frames slightly.
6. Click OK

Of course - in doing this, you will eat up some more bandwidth as you're sending more information.

Alternatively, as you suggest - you could convert/rip the DVD to a suitable format on your computer and then share it with Nefsis' Share Media feature.

It goes without saying - only copy or rip DVDs that you own the copyright to, or have permission to - so avoid any retail DVDs please! :-)

There are numerous bits of software that can do this. After a quick Google I found one called "Xilisoft DVD Ripper Standard", which you can download as a trial or buy. I must admit, I have only had limited experience with this (so your testing may vary), but appears you can copy content to a suitable file that Nefsis can share - such as .WMV (Windows Media Video).

From this point onwards, you can then adjust the quality of the video directly in Nefsis...

Hope I've helped.

8/20/2010 12:04:39 PM Reply with Quote

I agree about that. I promise these are DVD's I purchased from a training company for the pure reason of sharing/training employees at our company only.

Well, I thought I almost had it! Thanks for the advise above.
On the Nefsis website, I saw the USB Hub..USB Video Capture Adapter
USB 2.0 Video Capture Device
Ideal companion for your portable audio/video application.
*When purchasing a USB video adapter, be sure to get USB 2.0 or later, and check for Windows Vista or Windows 7 compatibility. USB 1.0 adapters do not have the transfer rate required for video applications.


I thought I could hook it up to the DVD player and it almost worked.
We hooked it up with the red/yellow/and white cords from the back of the DVD player to the USB hub to the computer. Nefsis did read it as a "video camera" so I thought I could change the lay out and make it show as if we were having an all video conference. It didn't quite work.

1. While the touch panel was on, hooked up the DVD player to the USB hub below the desk and turned DVD player on.
2. Opened up Nefsis and navigated to Settings. Went to Video selection, choose the Video Composite option.
3. On the DVD player, pressed Play.
4. In Nefsis, changed Layout to Video only and the play all button is grayed out.
5. The DVD player is showing hooked up, but when I insert the DVD into the player, it states, "loading" ... a few minutes later it gives me the error, "Wrong Disc." I used 2 different DVD's to test.

I'll try ripping next! I am bound and determined to come up with a solution. It's too vital to the training department since I can't fly out to all of the branches at this time.

Thanks for your help!
Laurelle

8/20/2010 2:58:14 PM / Edited 8/20/2010 3:00:07 PM by Allen Reply with Quote

DVDFab

I have used this product to convert other DVDs to media files before, it works really well and is easy. I haven't tried it with Nefsis's Share Media file feature but they have a free trial you could download to see if it might work.

8/24/2010 8:31:22 AM / Edited 8/24/2010 10:49:41 AM by Laurelle Reply with Quote

Good morning,
I down loaded the trial version and tried to copy over the dvd, but Nefsis isn't playing the file even though the file is in the Windows Media/Audio Video extention.

Are you using the DVD Ripper or the DVD WMV Converter?

Any other helpful ideas?
Thanks!
Laurelle

9/30/2010 12:10:33 PM Reply with Quote

We used the DVD Ripper option in DVDfab and ripped our test DVD to a WMV formatted video. DVDfab rip and convert DVDs in one pass and we tested it in Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7.

Here are the steps.

1. Start DVDfab,
2. Select DVD Ripper,
3. If the 'to WMV...' option is not visible, click on 'More...',
4. Select 'to WMV...' and click OK,
5. Select your DVD source located at the top right section,
6. Select your target (select the default and make a note of the path),
7. At the bottom of DVDfab, click Edit,
8. Select your output preference (see the video format section). We recommend trying the 640 resolution for video if it is available and 128 Kbps for audio.
9. Click on OKand then click on Start.
10. When the conversion process is complete, start Windows Media Player and open the WMV file to verify it works,
11. If the WMV plays it without any issues, share it in Nefsis using the Media Sharing feature.

Note: If you have any other DVD ripping programs or third party codec packs (like FFDSHOW or K-Lite), we highly recommend uninstalling these apps and codec packs before proceeding with our recommendation.

Let us know if this solution works for you.

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